giromancy wrote:Hi guys, i´ve recently realized that there are two textures of Beta monsters left in the NTSC cd version of
the game, if you explore the CD you will find these images with the following names:
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Now let's take a closer look. This is a comparison between Orange Child beta texture between Grey Child final texture:
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Notice the different skin color, the orange child it resemble more like a human skin, in the left image below, you can see the face has eyes and a different mouth compared with the final texture in the right side. Now another thing is that the beta texture also has completely naked body, in the final texture we can see some kind of ¨belts¨ grabbed in his chest:
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Now, if we look the screens from the E3 1998 trailer, we can see a similar monster in wich also has orange skin, and it has eyes and mouth in his face:
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But im not quite sure about this because of his head form
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In Nowhere, if we turn off the electricity in the Bethor Room and then go to the basement (classroom), we can find three enemies there, but they are different to the final Grey Child we all know, they have eyes and mouth like the orange child beta monster (texture)
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So this creature in the basement has a texture after all.
Now let's take a closer look to second creature, this one is the Beta Larval Stalker texture. The only footage we have of him is in the E3 1998 trailer:
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Have you ever seen his face?........Here it is:
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Now, i wonder if it's possible to add this textures in the final game, it could be interesting to see.
By last, im not quite sure about this one, but it looks like a beta monster texture too, i repeat, im not 100% sure about this texture.
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What do you think guys?
Naroon wrote:Ah yes, I remember the reasoning they had for changing the textures. Basically the Orange/Grey Child creatures got changed around because some committee or something was butthurt that the creature looked too "child-like" (derp), so they removed the eyes and changed the color of the creature to dispel those concerns. Although I think this censorship was only done in the NTSC-U/C version, correct me if I'm wrong?
Anyway, the black basement creature looks that way because it's essentially a "ghost" version of the Grey Child or something. They opted to keep the eyes for it, on the grounds that the creatures don't attack the player and can't be attacked (although I think these creatures appear later in the game and can indeed attack/be attacked, IIRC, oddly enough...) They were kinda cute in a morbid sort of way, making those squeaking sounds and tripping and falling down sometimes, lol.
I'm not too sure about the last one, what it could've/would've been. It sort of looks like a humanoid head being viewed from the side. Perhaps this would've been used for one of the wall textures or something, like the stretched-skin-style things already present in the final game.
PaulSilentin wrote:Here you can have all textures from "CHARA" folder of OPM16 and retail JAP SH version in TIM format (CharlesM new sh extractor). Textures marked as "CLD1-3" is about this thread. I will try to restore beta models later with model replacement and stuff.
PaulSilentin wrote:c:\SH\ex\CHARA\AR.ILM Alessa Gillespie (in teen age)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\BAR.ILM (woman?)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\BD2.ILM (?)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\BFLU.ILM Flauros
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\BIG.ILM (?)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\BIRD.ILM (Air Screamer? - bird)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\BLISA.ILM Lisa Garland (bloody version)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\BOS.ILM Incubus(Samael, enemy boss)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\BOS2.ILM Incubator (Alessa white, enemy boss)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\BTFY.ILM (?)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\CAT.ILM cat
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\CKN.ILM Air Screamer (bird normal, enemy)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\CLD1.ILM Larval Stalker (little child)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\CLD2.ILM Demon Child/Invisible Demon Child (old child, enemy)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\CLD3.ILM Demon Child/Invisible Demon Child (USA censored child, enemy)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\CLD4.ILM Mumbler
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\COC.ILM Creeper (big cockroach, enemy)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\DARIA.ILM Dahlia Gillespie
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\DEAD.ILM (?)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\DG2.ILM Wormhead (dog evil, enemy)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\DOB.ILM (man?)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\DOC.ILM (man?)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\DOG.ILM Groaner (dog normal, enemy)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\DUMMY.ILM placeholder
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\EI.ILM (?)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\FAT.ILM (Split Head?)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\FRG.ILM (?)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\HERO.ILM Harry Mason
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\ICU.ILM (?)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\JACK.ILM (?)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\KAU.ILM Michael Kaufmann (with case)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\LISA.ILM Lisa Garland (normal version)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\LITL.ILM (?)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\MAN.ILM (?)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\MAR.ILM (Nurse?)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\MKY.ILM (?)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\MSB.ILM Cybil Bennet (Possessed version, enemy boss)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\MTH.ILM Floatstinger (giant mole or butterfly, enemy boss)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\OST.ILM (?)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\PRS.ILM (?)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\PRSD.ILM (?)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\ROD.ILM (?)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\SIBYL.ILM Cybil Bennet (normal version)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\SLT.ILM Hanged Scratcher (sewer spider, enemy)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\SNK.ILM (?)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\SRL.ILM Cheryl Mason
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\TAR.ILM Cheryl Mason (in Alessa school clothing)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\TDRA.ILM Dahlia Gillespie (copy?)
c:\SH\ex\CHARA\WRM.ILM Twinfeeler (worm from mall, enemy boss)
Giromancy wrote:
. It´s simple, just copy and paste the different palletes (layers) to Photoshop, for example, the texture of Harry (HERO.ILM) you have ¨15¨ Palletes, each one with a different color, red for Hammer, brown for his jacket, blue for handgun etc. when you have all the palletes separate in each layer in Photoshop, just cut the wrong colors in each layer and then merge all the layers to have a full color texture and that´s it. Sorry for my Engrish, i hope you have understood.
And if I can I will upload a video or a patch (or maybe I should leave that honor to you Paul?